??? Is there a link to the site somewhere? (I think I misinterpreted the Piyomaru’s post when I first saw it as something negative or snarky)
Ed,
The URL to the site (his blog) is http://piyocast.com/as/
This is the site I talked about that had a lot of Japanese on it and I used google to translate it to english. He didn’t mean anything negative. He responded to me and told me “welcome to my blog.” He didn’t post a URL because he knew I already had the URL. But now everyone can know the URL.
If you click on his link in the post it comes up with a lot of Japanese at the top. Translated it says:
Piyomaru
Mukaiyama, Nerima-ku, Tokyo
Programmer (AppleScript), Planner. Piyomaru Software CEO (Chief Exective Orikou-san). The latest book of AppleScript is on sale at Booth! Https://t.co/bKSMQkP7Yw
The last part of his standard header is advertising his electronic AppleScript books. Unfortunately they are written in Japanese. I’m not sure if I could translate his ebooks with google translate so I have never tried any of the books. A lot of ebooks are copy protected and limit the number of times someone can copy text out of a book and they usually limit the maximum size of any single copy.
So it was nothing negative. He was just being friendly.
Bill
Jim,
The required file placement for the files inside the top level folder before the database will work is:
FileMaker Pro folder
ASObj-C Database.fmpur
Extensions
Dictionaries
deutsalt.mpr
deutsch.mpr
deutschw.mpr
espanol.mpr
francais.mpr
italiano.mpr
ndlands.mpr
porbras.mpr
portugs.mpr
svenska.mpr
ukenglsh.mpr
usenglsh.mpr
usengmed.mpr
User.upr
FileMaker Pro runtime.app
FMP Acknowledgements.pdf
The top level folder name can vary buy everything inside that folder has to be in the same place. The file “FMP Acknowledgements.pdf” does not have to be in the folder before it will work, but FileMarker Inc requires the file to be in the folder before I can distribute it.
The “FileMaker Pro runtime.app” contains a striped down version of FileMaker so people can run the database I created but they can’t create anything new in the database or create any new databases. Technically you probably only need “User.upr” and “usenglsh.mpr” in the "Dictionaries"folder but I have never tried it to see if it works and there are people from other countries that look at the database.
Bill
Thanks, but you left out an important file:
ASObj-C Database.fmpur
where should it go?
May I suggest that in the zip file for each update, that you include an “install.txt” file with the proper instructions to install/setup the DB.
I fixed my previous post where I listed what files go where.
Sounds like a good idea.
Bill
FYI, his name is Takaaki Naganoya – he may be familiar to those on Apple’s AppleScript mailing list. I suggested he pop in here after I saw Bill’s commendation (which I second).
Bill, I’m about ready to give up. I’m still getting this error when I double-click on the R/T app OR the Database:
Here’s my setup in the standard Applications folder:
Now that I think about it you probably haven’t seen the previous instructions on how use the files. When I posted that information you weren’t interested in the database.
Drag the “ASObj-C Database.fmpur” file on top of the “FileMaker Pro runtime.app” and let go. Since the new OS came out the FileMaker runtime get an error if you double click on the database file. FileMaker isn’t that interested in fixing a problem with the previous OS so we’re stuck with that.
The first time you run something with “FileMaker Pro runtime.app” you also have to hold down the option key while doing the procedure described in the previous paragraph. The tells the OS that the application you’re opening is ok to open. After doing this once you don’t have to do that again as long as you’re using the “FileMaker Pro runtime.app” you were when you had the option key down. Your system will remember the app is ok. This happens because I didn’t want to pay $99 to apple for code signing and the Mac OSX will show an error without doing this.
That should fix your problem.
Once you get to the dialog click guest account and click ok.
That should take you into the database.
Bill
Here is a TextEdit document I wrote to help people with installing “ASObj-C Database” It is a TextEdit document so it should run on everyone’s Mac. If this proves to be a problem I can convert it to a pdf.
Bill
install.rtfd.zip (109.0 KB)
Since I don’t see any link to download the newest version of the database on this web page I’ll post it here. This is version A16.
Bill
Nope, still getting the same error.
Note that when I unzip the runtime app, it appears in all lower case, unlike what you show and what Dropbox shows. I have no idea what this means.
Sorry, but that’s it for me. I don’t have the time to continue to debug the installation process of your database. You may want to test the installation process on another Mac where FMP is not installed.
I’m running macOS 10.11.6.
Jim,
I’m creating a new link for the application. The app link has been used many time and worked so I didn’t think it could be a problem. If this doesn’t do it I don’t know what will. These are new links to all of the stuff.
FileMaker Pro files minus database file.zip
ASObj-C Database A16.fmpur.zip
install.rtfd.zip
Bill
Jim,
I downloaded everything all over again from the site and it works without a problem. I can’t get it to fail no matter how hard I try. I have to assume there is something on your system that is not compatible with FileMaker Pro. I’ll have to think about this and see what I can do.
Since you don’t want to trouble shoot the installation it appears that using FileMaker on your Mac is not a solution that works for you. I might be able to come up with something not as good but still does something.
Bill
Shane or Mark,
Is there some way to place the most recent version of the ASObj-C Database in Discourse such that everyone could download the newest version using the same link even when new versions come up. I’ve now got 16 sets of links with different amounts of information in them and with think fixed in some version but not others. The number of time something is linked by a reader is about 3 to 5 times for each thing that is linked. I’m just leaving a trail of out of date link behind me. Some very out of date. It’s hard to really getting anything going when every version means starting over with a new set of people.
Shane is there a way I could just get a place on your site where someone can click a link. Just that much would help a lot. I don’t need a page, just a place to put a link.
Bill
Sure. Give me a chance to sort something out…
Jim,
I did a quicky print to PDF on the samples in the in the database. I can probably clean and shorten it a bit but I wanted to see if you were interested in this as a pdf. You can search it for examples and read to see how things work. If this is something you are interested I can do this for the 3 types of samples: beginning, Intermediate and advanced. Most of the samples for now in the Intermediate level. I included the pdf file in this post. Let me know you are interested in my doing anything else with it. Other stuff like explanatory notes, in every class item and class, … get more complex. Probably the extra info stuff is doable. But I can’t commit a least month and most likely a lot more to making all the info available without a database in any way that is reasonably accessible. Preparing data to export to another database is hard enough but getting it to work in a different database is always a lot of work and I wouldn’t want to support a different database.
Without the database pdfs are about the best I can do for you. But I think they would be helpful.
I just noticed the name of the archive I just uploaded is named “Teaching company courses v1.2.pdf.zip” I have automatic stuff set up and I do databases for the “Teaching company.” But I did upload the correct pdf. It’s just named wrong.
Bill
Bill,
OK, these download links worked (very different from before). Dropbox actually show the file as a ZIP file, instead of the contents of the ZIP (as it did before). So I think your prior link to “FileMaker Pro files minus database file.zip” was bad.
Fortunately, I was able to open the DB file using the FileMaker Pro runtime.app.
My immediate reactions are:
- Almost all text is too small, hard to read. Can I make it larger?
- What do I do now? How do I use the DB?
May I suggest that you make a video (or maybe a series of videos), that show the various ways to use the ASObjC DB?
Here is a screenshot that shows the very small text:
Jim,
I created a new ASObj-C version A16.1. This version just has only one change so I made it version 16.1. I added a third size to the database.
When looking at the “class items” window, there is a popup menu in the top left corner of the window. The image immediately following this paragraph shows a picture of this popup. It has the text “window size” below it. This popup allows the screen arrangement and text size size to be changed.
Originally there was the “2560 X 1440” size which is the screen for a 27 inch iMac. Then I added a “1280 X 735” for a laptop sized screen. I just added a new size called “2560 X 1440 (big text).” I changed the font size from 10 point size to 14 point. If you select “2560 X 1440 (big text)” you will get bigger text on the window. The image below show what the popup should look like after it is clicked.
The actual database file in the "ASObj-C Database A16.1.fmpur is very small so I just uploaded it to the discourse site. Try this bigger text size out and let me know how it works out.
Bill
ASObj-C Database A16.1.fmpur.zip (691.1 KB)
I have to write 4 things here.
(1) Shane Stanley’s work is the mother (father?) of my wokrs. His books are great and thoughtful. I read his post in AppleScript-users ML around Cocoa themes.
(2) I’ve been taken Apple’s 108 Mailing Lists for over 10 years (including Cocoa-Dev ML). And classify every MLs by AppleScript robot automatically.
(3) My e-books (PDF version) permits the copying text or the printing. So, you can translate them by Google or print it out. Only the modification action is not allowed.
(4) I have a great respect with Mark Alldritt, Shane Stanley & Bill Cheeseman. Mark is a man of gentle. If his words sounds sharp, my respect is not shaken or disappeared.
Takaaki Naganoya
Piyomaru,
I started in AppleScript from the beginning when it was released back when Finder had its dictionary outside of Finder. At first I though it was a very odd language. But now it seem like the most natural language I know. I remember Shane’s name coming up here and there, and before I knew it was all over the place. Mark changed the way Applescript was done. All the serious scripters used Script Debugger. I definitely remember Bill Cheeseman.
But I also remember the first time I saw your site. It was one of the most amazing things I had seen with AppleScript. After the first day of checking it out I just stared at the Mac screen for a long time in amazement. Shane has done so much to teach others, Mark has provided amazing tool for scripters, but you blog has collected so much ASObj-C information that it is one the most amazing things I’ve come across in AppleScript. Thank you for all the hard work you put into that. And thanks to Shane, Mark and all the early AppleScript pioneers 
Bill